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it in dell. we had the president talking today. more bipartisan politics, you know. i'm just not a believer in that. i think that's the overhang of this market. i'd like to see the deals done. creates headlines but that's about all it is. >> good to see you. thank you for being with us. we're coming off the lows of the day. stick around. we're going to get more insights from a very savvy analyst on whether this dell rumor is true or not. and what it says about the technology industry and the pc market as well. as we head to the close, the dow up 20 points. that's the first hour of "the closing bell." second hour of "the closing bell" with maria bartiromo ww where are you seeing conviction on the buy side? are there sectors where you see buyers continually day in and day out? >> energy and financials, those are the short answers. >> good answer. thanks for that. let me does you, tim hollands, how are you putting work to be in this environment? what kind of year do you expect it to be? >> we don't have price on the dow, but we continue to look at more domestic-facing companies and industries,
for discussions about dell going private. we'll have that discussion at 5:20 eastern time. before that, we'll head over to singapore to talk iron ore as rio tinto says it's boosting production by 15% this year. >>> meanwhile, just over an hour and 10 minutes into trade in europe, on the dow jones stoxx 600, 50/50. or 300/300, depending how you want to view it. we had a pause last night. right now, we're down .04%. the ftse 100 down 0.0 %. the xetra dax down 11 points, ibex down 71 points and 40 down 1.5 points. italy slightly higher on the bund yields. sannish yields back over the 5% mark. on the currency markets, euro/dollar is at 1.3361. dollar/yen pulling away from its nine-month highs at 88.70th at the moment, as well. that's where we stand in europe. sixuan has more for us from singapore in the asian session. >> sure. thank you, ross. asian markets were a bit of a mixed bag. the shanghai composite gained .6% after yesterday's 3% job. since then, numbers were boosted by china's top security official who said beijing could lift the quota for investors to invest in the mainland markets by as muc
>>> good morning. today's top stories, dell reportedly holding talks to go private. jpmorgan has ordered to fix lapses in its risk management and fed chairman bernanke has a warning for congress. raise the debt ceiling or put the u.s. economy st. at risk. it's tuesday, january 15th, 2013 and "squawk box" begins right now. >>> good morning, everybody. welcome to "squawk box" here on cnbc. i'm becky quick along with joe kernen and andrew ross sorkin. we've been watching the u.s. equity futures and at least at this point you can see they do look like they're indicated to open a little lower. right now, dow futures down by about 16 points below fair value. the s&p futures are about 2 points below fair value. we have some different nebs going on at the top of the screen than we do on that fair value board. we'll check on that, as well. >>> dell is said to be in talks with private companies in reports of a possible guyout. the journal says jpmorgan is involved in the negotiations. dell shares have been soaring near an eight-month high on first word of this news yesterday. you can see u
as we dissect that report today, david will be discussing what their strategy is regarding dell. >> no comment on that on the conference call, by the way. >> listen, this is all -- dell is all still moving forward. you know, as our reporter said earlier this week, in the not too distant future. a few things to quickly point out on dell that may have missed in my reporting from a week or so ago. dell has been going through a process for quite some time to enhance shareholder value. it started last summer when they engaged with banks that start to explore, should we split the company, is there a possibility there. are there any strategics that would be out there that might be interested. then they ended up with this plan to pursue the leverage buyout. so when we do see an announcement as we still likely are to with this leverage buyout, and others say there's a conflicted process that we don't like, that perhaps we'll start with the price, they're going to present a lot of what they've already done. the special committee will have already presented what they've already considered,
... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. >>> almost five and a half years ago it was the rapt heard round the world, cramer calling out the fed for not understanding the magnitude of the crisis that resulted in financial market turmoil. >> i have talked to the heads at almost every one of these firms in the last 72 hours and he has no idea what it's like out there. none. bill pool has no idea what it's like out there. my people have been in this game for 25 years, and they're losing their jobs, and these firms are going to go out of business and he's nuts. they're nuts! they know nothing! >> cramer -- >> i have not seen it since i went five bid for half a million shares of citigroup and i got hit in 1990. this is a different kind of market. the fed is asleep. >> a lot more evidence cramer was right, as shown in the minutes of the meeting that took place days after that tape. william pool, said my own bet is the financial market upset is not going to change fundamentally what is going on in the real econ
. >>> the debate kicks off whether dell can, a, raise the money to go private, and b, reinvent itself without going through cash flow. the journal said the talks have been serious for weeks. >>> lululemon doing a downward dog this morning. raises guidance but not enough to impress investors. >>> the battle over the debt ceiling has warranted a warning from fitch. they said it will prompt a formal review of u.s. credit ratings. fitch does add it expects congress will ultimately approve a ceiling increase. the head of global sovereign ratings for fitch, david riley, will join us in the next hour. bernanke weighing in on the debt ceiling in michigan late yesterday. >> raising the debt ceiling, which congress has to do periodically, gives the government the ability to pay its existing bills. it doesn't create new deficits, it doesn't create new spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family which is trying to improve its credit rating saying, i know how we can save money, we won't pay our credit card bills. not the most effective way to improve your credit rating. >> the metaphors,
. that hadn't happened yesterday, but we reported on it last week. and dell, buyout talks appear to be advancing which people didn't think they would. and david faber reporting talks between 13.50 and $14 a share. the investments from silver lake and other potential investors roughly $2 billion, and the debt financing, people want to do it. seen as oversubscribed. michael dell is expected to invest fresh money in the transaction, and faber says an announcement could come within two weeks, which is less than six weeks, which is what people were saying yesterday. >> all right. >>> other technology news, apple's vice president of retail has left the company. jerry mcdougal was a potential candidate for the company's now-vacant senior vice president of retail position. shares of apple falling below $500 this week. look at that -- $487 a share. premarket higher by a buck. you see ever since the foen 5 actually came out -- the iphone 5 actually came out, people are selling on the news, reports of whether or not they've cut the number of orders for parts internally has pressured the sto
. that means the lending is not going on. we're still at increasingly a low economy. if you buy back the dell, you don't go to the banks anymore. you find other sources of money. i think that the financial story and economic story is saying this is not the kind of financial environment that leads to rapid growth. >> interesting. >> okay. >> you tied it in to dell and jpmorgan and everything else. excellent. larry, thank you. >> my pleasure. >> join us tomorrow. "squawk on the street" begins right now. >>> good wednesday morning. welcome to "squawk on the street." i'm melissa lee with carl quintanilla, and jim cramer and david faber at the new york stock exchange. stocks had a pretty nice day yesterday. the s&p closed at five-year highs. we are looking to the down decide this morning. the dow looking to lose about 62 at the open. the picture in europe, a couple of downgrades for gdp forecasts from both the german government and world bank. italy is down by 1.5%. road map this morning starts off with the banks and earnings. jpmorgan higher. goldman sachs at 18-month highs. >> japan airlines gro
. >> told we have some breaking news on dell. uh-oh, what's going on? >> david faber has been working the story and has confirm some of the details out there in terms of jpmorgan advising dell silver like partners appears to be the driving force in terms of private equity firms looking to make an investment in dell and perhaps take it private. another factor, a canadian pension fund also looking perhaps to take a major stake there. dell at the highs of the day, monster volume today on dell, bill. over 131 million shares. that's well over four times the average daily volume over the last ten days and it's spiked in volume with all the speculation. >> and a tremendous amount of skepticism that they would even be able to figure out a leveraged buyout. >> shares of a seven and a half month high. >> all right, bertha. thank you very much. as we head towards the close here, we've got the dow up 32 points at highs of the session. is the stock market set up for a fall though with fitch warning on america's credit rating due to the debt ceiling fight? our market pros will weigh in on that, plu
of a potential buyout of dell. one more time >>> before you can get to the bell, you got to go through the mad dash. we are here with jim at post 9, what you are calling a battleground over bed bath. >> people have been saying over and over again, don't get involved with this thing, 'cause it's gonna be amazoned. in other words, this is another one of those retailers, like best buy, you can get most of the stuff at amazon. this call is very interesting, listening, maybe we have reached the bottom of the kurig cycle. people buy the green mountain kurig there and it slowed. you know what, this is one of those stories, it has got a beautiful balance sheet. i have often jested to david neighbor they're bed bath would make a natural leveraged buyout. he has questioned how much equity you have to put up in it. the balance sheet is clean and the company does not like wall street. look at the conference calls, like, here, take that, i can't do an icahn. i know we have a good icahn imitator here it has missed. it is a good, sheep stock. you have to have great faith. love to shop there but they coupon t
business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. >>> good morning. welcome back to "squawk box" here on cnbc. i'm joe kernen along with becky quick and andrew ross sorkin. u.s. equity futures at this hour are slightly lower. did close down 51 points or so yesterday. making headlines, a pilot program for volt in the stock market is now not likely to be rolled out until april. not seeing a whole lot of volatility. we could use a little volatility. i don't know whether we need to ramp down the volatility at this point? we got a 13 on the vix. changes and financial industry groups want more time to prepare. it's the so-called limit up limit down initiative was approved by the s.e.c. back this june. it would pause trading of individual u.s. listed stocks if they loved outside of praise range based on where they had recently traded. during the time-out, traders would assess whether they get a time-out. >> actually, this is a good thing. it will prevent the flash crash test. >> it will give us a chance to find out whether the stock's move was a glitch or a move. th
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-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. >>> time for cramer's mad dash. let's talk supervalu. important deal taking place for the company. basics are you'll get a 30% owner, $4 a share. that would be service also taking on albertson's. >> i was worried about the balance sheet and worried about the earnings. >> still a risk, but it is a refi. this is essentially a way to refi the company, take out some of the risk that you're talking about. >> if there isn't a tender at $4, does the back end trade much lower? what i'm trying to do is protect people from paying $3.50 if that turns out to be not a good price. >> people are trying it-to-figure out it-to to figur out 30% at $4. let's not forget this company tried to sell itself for quite some time. private equity overall very large. that has been the case in private equity. there's been a multiple problem when it comes to private equity. very high multiples. not enough growth. >> is there a larger conclusion to that supermarkets are still investable. it was successful in bringi
? ♪ or turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. ♪ [ indistinct shouting ] [ male announcer ] time and sales data. split-second stats. [ indistinct shouting ] ♪ it's so close to the options floor... [ indistinct shouting, bell dinging ] ...you'll bust your brain box. ♪ all on thinkorswim from td ameritrade. ♪ >>> you are watching cnbc "squawk on the street" live from the financial capital of the world. the opening bell set to ring in just about a minute's time. earning season kicked off last night with alcoa. the read on that has been pretty good. a little mystery today as well, jim, with facebook, saying they're going to have an event on january 15th. the invite says, quote, come and see what we're building, and that's about it. >> i have been a believer in facebook ever since they did the mea colpa. you know what, these guys, they are taking share and taking names. they offer a new product, we'll love it, whatever it is. >> it's going to be interesting to watch. what a
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challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. ♪ [ male announcer ] some day, your life will flash before your eyes. make it worth watching. introducing the 2013 lexus ls. an entirely new pursuit. >>> welcome back to "power lunch." we have been extending the debt ceiling and it does appear though the vote is going on, with 280 votes it does have the votes it needs to pass. that means republicanes have been successful, at least so far in their plan to reverse the order here of the fiscal fights in washington. preferring politically to fight over the battle on the sequester, rather than the battle on the debt ceiling itself. which raises the prospect on the default of the nation's obligations. the sequester, much safer political ground and looks like republicans will be able to proceed with that fight because it looks like the senate will take this up and pass it and looks like the president of the united states has signalled we will sign it. so sue, that's the status from washington. >> eamon, they are watching washington very closely here on wall street. to bertha c
. dell is over $13 a share. the overall s&p hit a fire year high. up 15%. the last two months and it is up 6% that is a bullish independent cater. good retail sales report today. let's talk with ken with capital growth. i sthout tthought the retail sa number website as up. things are looking better than was first thought. there was a major upturn in automobile sales. and it has happened in the last couple of weeks. isi data which i have been received for the hast few years. is probably associateded with the fears of the fiscal cliff. driving it is building up people's kstsz about the fuconf in their own net worth. >> how about the stock market itself? >> that is a wealth cray toreat. >> confidence in the future is building. i think you are going to see economic growth. and it is going to cause the fed to change it's policy. short-term interest rates are going to go up as well. you are going to see many stocks which will be enhanced if interest rates move up. >> what would some of those groups be if you are correct, that benefit from it. >> life insurance companies and all of t
artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. >>> we have a rule around here, you can't have the opening bell until you get the "mad dash," even on a friday. ubs takes jcpenney to a -- >> cash flow preservation. this is amazing. we are trimming fourth-quarter sales to minus 28%. >> from minus 20? >> look, guys, you can't run a company at that level. you can't fire people fast enough. you can't take merchandise out of the store fast enough. this is very worrisome report. the preferred is what i like to watch because that had a big move over 19. carl, i don't know. this is an obituary. now, of course, they have a caveat, you know, maybe things can be okay, come back. we still believe jcpenney is repairable. it's kind of like the debt that's maybe greatly exaggerated, but holy cow. >> they say any fix will require a change in the turn-around when you go back to the discounted idea. in that case, it deserves a premium like most traditional department stores. >> exactly. i've got to tell you, i go to
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to be bullish. >> right. look, new ceo coming in. always been a great company. i'm watching dell as a play from pc to services. maybe that could be good. intel was an inexpensive stock. it was an underperformer in the dow. david, i'm going to look at you, you're going to hate this because i'm going to ask you something. >> go ahead. >> obviously linked to intel, down 44%. we like bank of america and citi. is there a way, if you look at the intel upgrade, is there a way to think because of ultra books that hewlett-packard might be able to pull out of this tail spin? >> yes, there is a way. >> how would it happen? >> you subscribe part of it. but eshall see. when it comes to hewlett-packard, there are so many moving parts. the difficulty of the turn-around is so widespread from an organization that we pointed out many times has well over 300,000 employees. we'll see. will there be signs of progress in 2013, jim, i think is really the key question. because then you might give investors something to at least latch onto with the hopes that 2014 will be a real key -- not that this isn't. this is the
... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. >>> welcome back. human rights activists expressed outrage over a marriage in saudi arabia. a 70-year-old man wedding a 15-year-old girl after paying $20,000 for her. saudi arabia's human rights commission told cnn a divorce had been granted in this case. spent a lot of time in saudi arabia. tell us more about this and how people in the region reacted to this. because old men marrying young women is not legal. >> reporter: that's right. i spoke a short while ago with the head of the human rights commission in saudi arabia and he said a divorce has been granted. he said a teen was dispatched to the small village, they spoke with the girl, her family and the husband and resolved the dispute. this divorce will be registered with the court and this dowry will be returned to the husband. the husband claimed he had been ripped off. he said he paid this money and because of that this girl when she left the marriage house that was going against the marriage contract. he was outr
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. >> what does this say about hue yet pack yard? what does this say about the news about dell with a potential buyout? i assume what is happening at intel is happening there and possibly in a worse situation. >> i don't cover those companies, but i would say generally the incumbents, the old school type companies that we saw in the '80s and '90s, the business environment is changing, the models are changing. there was an interesting conference in silicone valley this week called the open compute summit where in the data center aft of the trends are for a neutral vendor knew translane. they don't care about the processor, they don't care about the brand name any more, they want to use multi sourced nonbrand solution s in the data center, which is an important area for intel in the future. all customers care about is performance per watt, per square foot, per dollar. they don't care about the name brand. so all of the incouple be kucume in trouble. >> it seems so obvious now that no one cared about the brand that's in the computer. but for years, intel spent millions trying to c
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? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. >>> i'm jim cramer, and welcome to my world. >> firms are going to go out of business. they're nuts! they know nothing! miss it hey, i'm cramer. welcome to "mad money" to cramerica. other people want to make friends. my job isn't on just to entertain, but to teach and educate. call me at 1-800-743-cnbc. after a ho-hum session, s & p finishing flat, nasdaq advancing 1.2%. we're about to head into one of the four most exciting but least lucrative weeks of the year, thanks to the coming jumble of earnings. that's right. the reports are coming. you know the rultz. no trading at the height of earnings season. let's just try to learn. as i told you not that long ago. it's almost xwabl to make money until after we've seen the earnings. i did five years worth of work on these weeks. i'm not kidding. i spent the last -- yeah, i spent about the last few weeks. i went through every single earnings week, and i have to tell you, just as right as we are wrong, it's like a coin flip, and we have a real parade o
anniversary of remission? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. not a huge week for stock mutual funds. 3.75 billion. so, is it time for retail ifrn vestors to get back in? neil, at the same time money goes into mutual funds, it appears to be coming out of broad matching market etfs, why? >> i think obviously investors are looking for a return. they are not getting it in bonds and certainly they can look for it in stocks. the s&p 500 yield is higher than now in ten-year treasury. they've got to look somewhere and i think they are trying to look for winners right now. >> what do you think, brian? time to get in, or when the retail guys go in as they seem to be, is it time to get out? >> that's the cliche. they are already getting in. we have to answer whether it is a good idea. i think it is one of the best places for yield if you can't get into real estate. but the bottom line is this. tyler, i met new summer of 2007 when the vix was last this low and i remember doing dow 14,000 stories in the fall. and i remember what happened after tha
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there was a period more than a decade ago when we saw the pc market just exploding and companies like dell and hp increasingly making profits, growing revenue, selling hardware. then we got this period where it was about google. it was about ebay. it was about amazon. the services and the commerce that you can layer on top once you've got a big market of people who have these devices. we are reaching that with the smart phone market but we don't yet know which companies are going to invent the software services that really profitably take advantage of that. that's what it's going to be not this ipad. >> well said. final point, guys. rimm's down almost 8%. dan, do you think that reflects anything of how tomorrow may go for them? >> yeah. i think they've delayed this new operating system for so long it is almost going to be an anticlimactic. i doubt they'll have anything that is going to make people really want to switch if they can convince people. >> i'll see you at that event tomorrow morning. thanks, guys. over to mary thompson for a quick market flash. >> taking a look at shares of netflix up
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